This is hilarious. I remember hearing this story about 20 years ago. This story has been recycled, regurgitated, repackaged, and redistributed in numerous forms many times over. This urban legend is a dead horse that has had the crap beaten out of it by overzealous COs, and uninformed yokels within the congregations. These knee-jerk reactionary whisper campaigns are textbook behavior of the cults.
Jeremy C
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Latest United Nations-End of Religion-End of World alert
by Questions1 init has been awhile since i've posted anything, but i got this e-mail from someone who is on the edge of falling out of the borg due to mental stress.
i've attempted to verify the information, even called the united nations, but haven't gotten to a person who can say if this meeting happened.
my gut says this is a contrived experience with many details just not adding up...but you never know.
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Kirk Cameron Videos about JWs
by jamiebowers inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywqnv3g6cpi.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdh_h_pko8m.
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Jeremy C
These are the same old trite arguments about hellfire, John 1:1, and the deity of Christ. That dead horse has been beaten like a pinata at a birthday party. This just encourages Evangelicals to continue their same tactics - confronting JWs on the trinity and hellfire doctrines which are highly ineffective methods of reasoning with JWs. Kirk Cameron needs to spend some time on an ex-JW forum if he really wants to be effective.
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#4 Talk - Timothy why beneficial
by still_in74 inhey - does anyone have this talk written already?.
of course that would be us suckers still in.
i have to give it tonight and i havent written it yet.. cmon,,, help a brother out!!!!
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Jeremy C
I have to give it tonight and i havent written it yet.
LOL ! You sound like a Bethelite. When I was serving in Brooklyn Bethel, I remember that a number of us would finish up writing talks and preparing Service Meeting parts as we rode the subway to our Kingdom Hall.
Why is it that so many JWs treat their talk assignmens in the same way that they do with filing their taxes? It must be because they're both so much fun.
Break a leg brother!
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Chet Lemon
by asilentone inhe was a professional baseball player with detroit tigers and he became jw in the 80's.
i was wondering what is his status in the org?.
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Jeremy C
On a somewhat related topic, I once met an elder from one of the Los Angeles congregations (I don't want to reveal his name on the forum) who played in the Major Leagues. He was a pitcher for the Cincinatti Reds and the Los Angeles Dodgers back in the 1970s. At the time that I met him (in 1990) he still wore his World Series ring. It was my understanding that he did not become a JW until after he was finished with the Majors.
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WT Controlling Statements About Missing Meetings,Worldly Parent's, Etc.
by flipper inmost of us know having been out of the witnesses that one of the dastardly techniques they use in controlling members is to keep them so busy engaged in other activities that there is absolutely no time to pursue normal family interests or hobbies.
one of the lurking witness friends on the board sent me some quotes from a recent book study.
look at these quotes and see how controlling the watchtower society is becoming.
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Jeremy C
Most of the motivation used by the Watchtower leadership is comprised of guilt and fear. This is because there is really nothing to inspire people within the organization or anything to evoke natural intrinsic motivation based upon love and devotion.
The only tool available to the organizational hierarchy is attempt to make its members feel afraid and guilty for not molding themselves to the organizationally programmed treadmill. Unity is natural. Unanimity must be manufactured and enforced.
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Some little dubbie kids came up to me after class... (Evolution Story)
by Kudra inso i teach science in middle and upper elementary schools as part of a fellowship i have this year.
for the 4th/5th grades our project is to construct a timeline of the evolution of land plants on earth.
so we do our first activity (researching parts of the hadean and archean and making pictures to put on our timeline) and after the class these two boys (who were kinda acting up) come to me and say they have something to tell me in private.
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Jeremy C
Just wait until you delve into the evolution of sexual reproduction within the species. An apostate teaching evolution and sex. A triple whammy! (sexual pun kind of intended)
This is one of those things that the convention talks warned would happen to people who leave the protective confines of Jah’s clean organization. What reproach . . . .
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Do you "think" that JW's and Born-Agains are "addicted" to religion?
by booker-t ini must admit i never really thought of religion as an addiction until i was reading a story about a girl that was a strict "pentacoastal" and followed all of the rules of the church until she became fed up with it all and left.
and then she went to an even "stricter" church until her therapist told her that going from church to church is like a new "high".
and when you think of some of the lingo that jw's and born agains use it might just as well be considered an addiction.
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Jeremy C
Religion is what you make it. Some people devote themselves to religious adherence in with the intention of bettering their neighbors. I once saw a sermon given by the founder of the Dream Center in Los Angeles - a Christian outreach project to the people of Skid Row. I was deeply impressed not only by his caring and compassion; but by the stories of people he had met who were making amazing turn-arounds in their lives.
Then, there are those who devote themselves to dogma for nefarious reasons - subjugation, coercive proselytizing, and the zealotry of killing infidels.
Ultimately, I believe that it all lies in the motives and intentions of the individual doing the seeking. I believe that a glance at the contrast between the Dalai Lama and Osama Bin Laden makes that obvious.
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WT Believes Demons Can Repent and Join God's Org.?
by cameo-d inin 1878 j. g. smith published a novel titled seola.
in 1924 it was revised by a bible student (jw) and published under the title angels and women.
it was recommended by the watchtower society in two golden age magazines.. according to the watchtower's view of how the book was written, angels and women is an automatic writing book.
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Jeremy C
The self-serving and self-aggrandizing Watchtower organization doesn’t need to channel demons in order to delude themselves and their members. All they need is the book of Revelation.
Any group that utilizes an apocalyptic fable filled with bloodshed, beasts, numbers, and spirits, as a foundation for their belief structure is going to run in circles. Such apocalyptic movements always chase their own tails, try to run from their own shadows, and see the devil hiding around every corner. Their attempts to understand such fantastical Biblical ramblings place them in a "fun house" of mirrors and mazes that keep them in a state of mania.
The more they try to make sense of Revelation, the more predictions they make. The more predictions they make, the more they fail. The more they fail, the more they re-double their efforts to make sense of Revelation. The cycle continues without any end in sight.
This is why I believe the book of Revelation is the most elaborate and insidious practical joke ever unleashed upon mankind.
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Was there ever a GOOD time to be a JW?
by gaiagirl inconsidering the history of the "organization", and how beliefs, practices and attitudes have changed through time, was there ever any time that a "international bible student" or jw was relatively more enlightened or had more freedoms than members of other religions?
or have they always been enslaved to one set of superstitious beliefs or another, to a greater degree than most other religions?
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Jeremy C
If you knew my prediction for 2011 AD you would have a good reason to shout for being one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
If the nations had known what was predicted for 1914, they would have also had similar reason to rejoice. And then more rejoicing for what was predicted in 1918. More jubilation was in store for what was predicted in 1925. And as for 1975? Those in the know were elated for what Jehovah had in store! Yes, with all of these exciting predictions being put forth, it is no wonder that Jehovah's people are the happiest people on earth!
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Wimps in the new system...
by White Dove ini've been thinking of the trials we go through day to day, big or small.
we learn and grow from them.
in the perfect, no hard lessons learned paradise, how are people expected to learn life lessons?
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Jeremy C
This is a subject that has rattled around in my mind on a few occasions. The Watchtower’s paradise paradigm does create certain dilemmas and contradictions in my mind.
For example, a society that is devoid of problems or conflict will also be a society that is completely comfortable; and therefore a society which has no need for expressions of empathy or compassion. Compassion and empathy are expressed toward one’s fellows because of their state of grappling with some form of pain, discomfort, or conflict. So, how would humans express their God-given attributes of compassion and empathy in a world which evokes none? How would humans manifest their God-given attributes of mercy if there was no sin committed against them?
Another issue: If events such as earthquakes and large volcanic eruptions are considered disasters, why did God place humans upon an earth that is intrinsically designed to shift, move, and evolve in the ways that it does? Furthermore, will God suspend all of these phenomena in the New System as to prevent earthquakes from destroying people’s houses? If so, why did he bother to design the earth to shift in the way it does?